Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015
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tscc1000
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Subject: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:34 pm
PERSON OF INTEREST Air Date: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 Time Slot: 10:00 PM-11:00 PM EST on CBS Episode Title: (#411) "If-Then-Else" SAMARITAN LAUNCHES AN ATTACK ON THE STOCK EXCHANGE, FORCING THE TEAM TO LAUNCH A DESPERATE MISSION "If-Then-Else" - Samaritan launches a cyber-attack on the stock exchange, leaving the team with no choice but to embark on a possible suicide mission in a desperate attempt to stop a global economic catastrophe, on PERSON OF INTEREST, Tuesday, Jan. 6 (10:01-11:00 PM ET/PT) on CBS.
REGULAR CAST:
Jim Caviezel (John Reese) Michael Emerson (Harold Finch) Kevin Chapman (Lionel Fusco) Sarah Shahi (Sameen Shaw) Amy Acker (Root)
RECURRING CAST:
John Nolan (Greer) Julian Ovenden (Lambert) Cara Buono (Martine)
GUEST CAST:
Chester Jones III (Monty) Mark Gessner (Gary) Andy English (Harvey) Brennan Taylor (Investment Banker) Alexis Suarez (Janitor #2) Chris Lapanta (Kenneth) Victor Joel Ortiz (Bomb Squad Cop #1) Greg McFadden (Businessman) Tuffy Questell (Guard) Charles Techman (Old Man) Gameela Wright (Single Mom) Rebecca White (Onlooker #1)
Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:09 am
Whoa, that's the hell of a promo video ... But I hope, we only see scenes of The Machine's simulations what could happen ... "If ... then ... else", as the ep title might implicate ... I really do hope so, because I don't want anyone of Team Machine to be killed!!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:35 pm
tscc1000 wrote:
Whoa, that's the hell of a promo video ... But I hope, we only see scenes of The Machine's simulations what could happen ... "If ... then ... else", as the ep title might implicate ... I really do hope so, because I don't want anyone of Team Machine to be killed!!
Well they may kill off one of the main cast sadly just for shock value and hoping to create a buzz that will lead to ratings increase. they see shows like walking dead do it and the ratings go up so they copy that.
Part of why people watch a show is they like certain cast and characters, and if you kill them off people no longer care to watch. Killing Carter off hurt the show in ratings I think, and will only hurt the show more if they kill another main cast off.
It is better to just do a quality story and characters, and let that carry the show, and not resort to cheap shock value. but hey I am not doing the show so.......
They also look at the idiot twitter feeds , so if that goes up they will think what they did was good lol.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:05 am
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:54 am
The last scene with shaw pulling the guy in the window, I dont think was in tonights show.
Some mild spoilers:
YOu were right about the what if's being played out, but it still has a shocking ending. They do confirm root is in love with show so lesbian. I dont know why they felt the need to go that route.
Then they have fusco kiss root and she says what was that ?? and I couldn't catch what he said back. I saw the previews to next show but wont say anything unless you want me too.
I will be glad when we get to see the blond get killed ! good ep but they stretched it out with the whole machine and harold playing chess and him teaching it a moral lesson. That was pretty much the focus of the show.
tscc1000
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:21 am
T5000 wrote:
1) The last scene with shaw pulling the guy in the window, I dont think was in tonights show.
Some mild spoilers:
2) YOu were right about the what if's being played out, but it still has a shocking ending.
3) They do confirm root is in love with show so lesbian. I dont know why they felt the need to go that route.
4) Then they have fusco kiss root and she says what was that ?? and I couldn't catch what he said back. I saw the previews to next show but wont say anything unless you want me too.
5) I will be glad when we get to see the blond get killed !
6) good ep but they stretched it out with the whole machine and harold playing chess and him teaching it a moral lesson. That was pretty much the focus of the show.
1) I was in tonight's ep, pretty much at the beginning, in Shaw's first scene, when she was working a number by saving a broker from committing suicide because of the stock market crash caused by Samaritan.
2) Yeah, I was shocked too, especially after I had already kind of relaxed when Shaw had seemed to arrive just in time to save the day for team Machine .... But today I read that Sarah Shahi is pregnant with twins - I wish her all the best with that! -, so it was inevitable to write her out. And she wanted to go out with a bang, not behind a desk hiding her pregnancy. Additionally she has no clue, when she'd be able to fully do the role as Shaw again after the twins will be born. Nevertheless, there somehow might be a slight chance to come back, because "the rule in TV is if you don’t see a body, then they’re not dead". So if PoI just will have some more seasons, everything might be possible ... Despite the shocking ending this was another awesome milestone in PoI's amazing run. This is pretty close to what I consider a perfect TV show. How they worked out the simulations including the slow-motions and connected it to how Finch tought the Machine chess and never to handle humans like chess pieces ... just brilliant!!!
3) I still don't see it as a problem. It wasn't exactly an confirmation either. As I said, Root is a pretty weird type and may seek some piece of happiness wherever she can get one, so she developped interest in Shaw, ok, why not. And facing possible death, why not confess that she cares a lot (or in her weird way "loves") Shaw. What became pretty clear though (only notorious shippers would deny and the showrunners obviously like to play with that ) is, that Shaw's feelings for Root are not meant as romantic (did you see her look right after the kiss?), to quote Sarah Shahi about the kiss, it was more like “trying to calm down a pestering child, if anything”: “Oh, shut the fuck up already, Root!” or “Okay, fine, I’ll give you what you want, now be quiet.”
Whatever, this "Shoot" ship never actually set sails and luckily never played a significant role in the show (for good reasons, because there are way more interesting plots to deal with, that's one of the reasons why I love PoI that much) and now that Shaw's probably gone, the lesbian shippers don't matter anymore, so just relax ...
4) After Fusco had kissed Root, he said "Why not, we're in a simulation..." Well, that was absolutely correct! ... Hm, I like the Machine's kind of humor ...
5) I guess you're not the only one ... What makes it really bad, is the fact that she even isn't a convinced believer of a new world order like Greer, but just a mercenary who likes doing what she does ...
6) Only "good" ep?? And "stretched out"?? Seriously? I just loved it and for me it's definitely one of the PoI top ten eps. I'm just wondering how they manage to deliver such amazing episodes again and again. Almost incredible ... But well, this is why PoI is the currently best TV show on air!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:35 am
Here are two links to an interview with Sarah Shahi and an interview with the PoI producers about the If-Then-Else episode ( do not read before having watched episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else"!!):
Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:49 pm
The 3 scenarios were all interesting. Decima has quite a team again. Greer telling Martine to have fun is kind of sadistic. First one we see Finch with Root in the program room and he got hit, and she was upset. Reese and Fusco were surrounded like the Alamo. Next simulation was with Reese and Fusco in the same room and Reese saved Fusco and took Lamber'ts grenade as he died and took him and his team out. Then Root took many bullets from Martine's team as she cut the elevator wire. During these we saw on the 2nd simulation that Fusco kissed "Banana Nut Crunch" Root. "It's just a simulation." Root called Shaw in the Police car to tell how much she liked her. Shaw also tried to get help from Reese to stop a trader,Gary, from blowing up the subway. Fusco tried to help and she finally talked him out of it. But on the 3rd scenario, they went in as a team of 4 and didn't have to shoot the operators. They installed the "fix" and headed out. It was cute where Harold was worried about the picture. On the last scenario they run into Martine's team. Root again calls to Shaw but she is there to help. She brought the bombers dynamite but it doesn't slow the Decima team much. The 2 girls together would be toxic. But they kiss.They try to flee in an elevator but it needs a button pushed to let it go down. Shaw holds the button and is shot by Martine. Couldn't anyone shoot Martine through the elevator screen door? We hear a shot at the end with Martine standing over Shaw?? But we had Reese and Root wounded, to.
I like Root when she calls Harold, "Harry" and when her and Fusco met today. He said, "This day is just getting weirder."And her reply," Nice to see you too, Lionel!"
Fusco is getting closer to knowing about the machine. When they were in the break room and being shot at through the door, he wonders what is up with Harold and Root talking about the Machine.
Nice that finally Shaw got Kenneth to give up the code. Luckily the 3rd time she got it, and she wasn't arrested. She also saved all those people on the subway.
I liked 2003 and Finch in the park playing chess with The Machine. I thought maybe the man, Marty who wanted to play him would turn into someone we saw later? Still might.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:23 am
UP FROM A 1.3 LAST SHOW. Tied with chicago fire. The previews for next show said they were going to try and save or get shaw back. So She wasnt killed or dead yet.
tscc1000
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:14 am
UP FROM A 1.3 LAST SHOW. Tied with chicago fire. The previews for next show said they were going to try and save or get shaw back. So She wasnt killed or dead yet.
Well, right now everything is still possible ...
tscc1000
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:20 am
Damn, I really will miss Shaw ... I hope even in the next episode they will leave the possibility for her comeback open! But all the best to Sarah and her twins! As amazing as PoI might be, it's only a TV show after all ...
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:48 pm
This is a great review of ep 4x11. The only thing I disagree is, that I definitely want Shaw back!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 4x11 "If-Then-Else" January 06, 2015 Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:05 am
Both Reese and Root were shot in this ep , so how bad were they hurt ??
One thing not mentioned , is that the whole WS crash was just to draw M team into a trap so they could be killed. It came close to working. Why did our M not see that in advance?? not very good chess playing !! Also it should have known about the guy with the bomb, and told shaw so she could just knock him on the head as soon as she got on. or before he got on train.
Seems to me M is just reacting to what S does and that is a losing strategy.
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