Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013
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tscc1000
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Subject: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:55 am
PERSON OF INTEREST Air Date: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 Time Slot: 10:00 PM-11:00 PM EST on CBS Episode Title: (#309) "The Crossing"
THE EPIC BATTLE TO BRING THE CRIME ORGANIZATION HR TO JUSTICE CULMINATES
"The Crossing" - Danger closes in when the battle to bring the crime organization HR to justice reaches new heights. Also, when The Machine suddenly gives out Reese's number, the POI team faces their greatest threat yet, on PERSON OF INTEREST, Tuesday, Nov. 19 (10:01 - 11:00 PM, ET/PT) on CBS.
SERIES REGULARS:
Jim Caviezel (Reese) Michael Emerson (Finch) Taraji P. Henson (Carter) Kevin Chapman (Detective Fusco) Sarah Shahi (Shaw) Amy Acker (Root)
RECURRING CAST:
Robert John Burke (Officer Patrick Simmons) Clarke Peters (Alonzo Quinn) Sean McCarthy (Lee Fusco)
GUEST CAST:
Matt Dellapina (Officer Brady) Lee Tergesen (Detective Petersen) Khalil Kain (Officer Lin) Luis Da Silva, Jr. (Trinitario Leader) Jas Anderson (Blood Leader) Paul O'Brien (Judge Andrew Monahan) Devin Ratray (Beat Cop) Paul Woodburn (Ed The Guard) Cullen R. Titmas (HR Detective) Jay Ward (Uni #1) Taylor C. Hays (Uni #2) Zachary Fine (Federal Agent)
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:58 am
Here are the promo pics for ep 3x09 (only available in small resolution so far):
I'll post higher resolution pics when available.
Edit: Ok, so here are the promo pics in the normal higher resolution:
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:59 am
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:04 am
Reese's number is up!!! And Root is "so sorry for your loss, Harold" ....
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:37 am
I just read about reese in the tv guide, I wonder if fusco will come up before he gets beat up?? also you made this a announcement instead of a episode thread! was that on pupose?...purpose
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:16 pm
T5000 wrote:
1) I just read about reese in the tv guide, I wonder if fusco will come up before he gets beat up?? 2) also you made this a announcement instead of a episode thread! was that on pupose?...purpose
1) Hm, maybe Fusco isn't in real danger at all? So no number told by the machine for him?
2) And upsy ... that of course wasn't on purpose ... corrected!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:07 pm
Oh man ... that sounds not good for Carter and Fusco ... one of them will probably not survive this ep ...
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:45 pm
SPOILERS preview 01 is same as shown on tv.
WOW what a Episode! it looks like you were right tscc, they did apparently kill Carter! It does not bother me, I just wonder /worry what effect it has with the neilsen crowd and therefore the ratings. Carter was a original on the show , and I am not sure it is smart to kill her off. I now wonder if maybe she was offered a better paying role elsewhere or has enough $ and wanted off the show. Anyway my favorite line was Fusco telling shaw that only the dog liked her:lol: Some good things with root and harold, he does not understand the machine talking to root. Next ep shows root out, so that is good. in previews reese is all out to kill top hr guy, but he should be after simmons. and I dont think carter would want him to kill the HR guy after all the trouble she went to , to arrest him. So I dont think reese will kill him. And seeing the preview which I sort of missed part of it on tv , I guess Carter is indeed dead and off the show. fusco saved himself and shaw saves his kid, so now it seems they are going to make shaw and fusco buddies. I did notice one thing, the machine knows where root is, it showed a view of her on a camera , and one of those squares appeared around her head. I sort of expected a command by the machine to harold saying "let her go" And really since they were all in danger, the machine should have sent numbers for all of them, including Carter.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:52 pm
ok I could not make the youtube url into a link!
webruce
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:46 am
Reese kissing Carter and then later Carter told Finch he had to have a super computer. They did a nice job getting Quinn to FBI. I bet he isn't done yet. Packing him in the Morgue drawer was cute. Thought the cops would look for him and not find him. But Reese leading away Officer worked well. Finch coming to help was good to. Can't believe Reese and Carter got shot at end, and Carter is dead??? No way, Finch stands as phone rings! Call 911!!!!!
Figured Finch was going to help Fusco against Peters,since Shaw was at his home. Great Job Fusco!!! Breaking loose and taking down Peters! The phone call about Lee his son made me tear up. Then Shaw taking down and telling Fusco, great job! Surprised Peters didn't catch on?? Fusco in car when Shaw stopped to talk and he thanked her was nice. Was his hands bandaged?
When Simmons went to the Morgue, when did he leave? Seems Carter wounded him at end. He also took out Judge Andrew Monahan. Simmons will be after Fusco again I bet to make his promise true.
Funny Reese borrowed the Ambulance, and Shaw visited the Officer in squad car.
Root is working her magic to "help" Finch. Not sure yet if he should release her.
Well Finch knows about Elias being out. Maybe not that he is under Carters watch.
Surprised Leon or Zoe wasn't there to help. Someone had to be able to watch Root(and Bear), if Finch didn't come back. But Zoe can't all the time. And she don't want to get in trouble by Police.
Did Reese kick butt in the Subway car? I left room on commercial and when I got back they were leaving car. Gang leader liked Reese's suit.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:21 am
Carter got shot at end, and Carter is dead??? No way, .........yeah she is dead next week reese is seeking revenge and root gets out.
carter did wound simmons in the gunfight, that was like a wild west shootout!
Someone had to be able to watch Root(and Bear), if Finch didn't come back......... I thought about that to, as root is locked up with no water source.
Finch stands as phone rings! Call 911!!!!!....yeah he should have called 911, and or answered the phone, which I guess was the machine.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:05 pm
I've just finished watching "The Crossing" ... and I'm totally stunned, shocked, shaken and enthusiastic about it ... I'm rather out of words for the moment ... though Carter's death could be more or less forshadowed, it was heart-breaking to see it actually happen ... Another hell of an awesome episode. It's sheer unbelievable, how PoI pulls off one fantastic ep after the other ... For me PoI reaches the spheres of Breaking Bad, when I had to think about the events of the latest ep for hours or even the next days occasionally (yes, I know, that's the biggest compliment I can make to something that's after all still just a TV show!).
And despite the overwhelming events they still keep feeding us with little hints to more fascinating details of the PoI history. So I was pretty surprised to hear that Finch obviously worked with guys like Reese before, who probably got killed in action ... wow ...
BTW, I really don't think, Finch wouldn't have taken care for Root (and Bear) in case of his death. He's not the guy who would simply risk that a locked up Root might miserably die of thirst or hunger. He just wanted nobody (even not Zoe or Leon) to know of Root if not absolutely necessary. Also the shootout took only a few seconds, so I can understand that Finch was so shocked that he just was unable to move for some seconds to call 911 ... what a dramatic ending ... The Machine calling on that phone, trying to deliver Carter's and Reese's numbers ... but it's too late ... I'm wondering, if Finch might think about the possibility, that accepting Root's offer to help could have saved Carter in the end???
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:11 pm
webruce wrote:
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Did Reese kick butt in the Subway car? I left room on commercial and when I got back they were leaving car. Gang leader liked Reese's suit.
Reese surely did kick but in the Subway, but they didn't show the details. We saw the gang approaching Reese and Carter and then we saw the door of the subway opening and some gang members already fell out ... ;-)
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:35 pm
tscc1000 wrote:
webruce wrote:
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Did Reese kick butt in the Subway car? I left room on commercial and when I got back they were leaving car. Gang leader liked Reese's suit.
Reese surely did kick but in the Subway, but they didn't show the details. We saw the gang approaching Reese and Carter and then we saw the door of the subway opening and some gang members already fell out ... ;-)
Ok thanks Tscc, I was going to answer that but could not remember a fight, so thought I missed it too lol.
now about the other guys finch worked with, that was a surprise to me also, and I have to assume the machine knew and told root. About if harold had taken roots offer, I dont know if that would have saved carter, but it is possible because instead of calling harold, the machine could have told root directly, about the impending danger from simmons. the preview shows root I think with 2 guns, so I wonder if harold sends her after simmons, and tells her it is ok to be bad ? lol the whole problem with carters plan was leaving simmons out loose and not thinking he would take revenge on Carter.
And yeah it was a stunning ep, I have to say I think POI is now the best written show on tv including cable shows. Homeland writing has dropped off, The other good cable shows I watched have ended. I think Bates is or S-1 was at a high level, and BE just had a episode that totally surprised me with what happened. But POI is the best network tv show, and maybe the best TV show anywhere. oops I forgot castle, which is a different type show, but I would have to say it is extremely well written, the recent terminator episode was a classic. the show runner for five -0 and some other show runners, should watch POI and learn how to do a show properly.
the ratings this show may not show anything, but next weeks show will reflect the impact of this show.
webruce
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:03 am
I don't think Carter is dead. I think either she has on a vest and it is a trick. Either the FBI or her and Reese have set up for her to play Dead. Or did Simmons take Fuscos gun that had blanks in it? Seems Carter got her Detective Badge back kinda quick. And Reese, (John Doe)was released kinda quick. They stood in alley to set up Simmons???
But did Finch stop in his tracks when her number was probably being rung on phone because he was protecting the Machine?? Carter knew to much about a supercomputer? Maybe Finch was protecting it?
In the 1st episode Finch had a couple guys working with him. They tried to strong arm Reese. But he didn't like it.
Did we stop putting info. on Wetpaint PoI?
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:57 am
Did we stop putting info. on Wetpaint PoI?........ yes only Nikita will be there at the Nikita wiki.
All I can say is it is possible they are playing with us on carter dying, or it could be real. I know reese is acting in preview like it was real. She could have wanted off the show for some reason, so they wrote her off in a stylish manner.
webruce
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:39 am
Thanks on the Nikita/PoI answer. Well I always hate to have a person killed off that may be able to come back someday. But I hope she is in hiding until HR is put away.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:25 am
webruce wrote:
Thanks on the Nikita/PoI answer. Well I always hate to have a person killed off that may be able to come back someday. But I hope she is in hiding until HR is put away.
I agree, they might want them back for a guest appearance, and people can accept a write out better than a death, but showrunners like to kill peoople!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:53 pm
webruce wrote:
Thanks on the Nikita/PoI answer. Well I always hate to have a person killed off that may be able to come back someday. But I hope she is in hiding until HR is put away.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure, that Carter is definitely dead. Why else would the showrunners and the actress herself then talk about possible guest appearances in flash-backs?
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:04 pm
Very true, very true. Now Carters son Taylor will have to be with his dad. Then Fusco, Reese and Finch will have to cope.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:05 pm
tscc1000 wrote:
webruce wrote:
Thanks on the Nikita/PoI answer. Well I always hate to have a person killed off that may be able to come back someday. But I hope she is in hiding until HR is put away.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure, that Carter is definitely dead. Why else would the showrunners and the actress herself then talk about possible guest appearances in flash-backs?
So why did she leave the show?, it had to be at her request?? I figure she wanted off the show at end of last season, and then they decided to write her out in a glorious manner including a kiss with reese LOL and the first part of this season was all about writing her out in a glorious fashion. the problem I have it that this will anger some fans, because they dont know this is what she wanted. I hate to lose any neilsen fans due to them being angry over carter being killed off. There were some who out of ignorance were angry at IMDB forums.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:23 pm
T5000 wrote:
tscc1000 wrote:
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure, that Carter is definitely dead. Why else would the showrunners and the actress herself then talk about possible guest appearances in flash-backs?
So why did she leave the show?, it had to be at her request?? I figure she wanted off the show at end of last season, and then they decided to write her out in a glorious manner including a kiss with reese LOL and the first part of this season was all about writing her out in a glorious fashion. the problem I have it that this will anger some fans, because they dont know this is what she wanted. I hate to lose any neilsen fans due to them being angry over carter being killed off. There were some who out of ignorance were angry at IMDB forums.
I'm not sure at all that it even was her wish to leave the show. Since when it's up to the actors to decide when and how to leave a series? I mean, ok, if an actor definitely wants to quit, the showrunners have to deal with it. But on the other hand, if the showrunners decide to kill a character for the sake of the credibility and quality of the story, what could the actor do other than to grin and bear it? Imho this could very well be in the case of PoI and Carter. Not that I like it to see her go, because her character and acting was great (as almost everything in PoI), but seen with a bit of distance it makes sense. Her story arc with HR is ending, they probably want to focus more on The Machine plot (that's when Root comes into play), they have Shaw now (who I consider definitely a win for the show) and it's just a matter of realism (as far a we can use this term at all for a show like PoI), that going through all the deadly dangers and situations finally one of the main characters would die. And I think we agree, that this could not be Finch or Reese!!
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:02 am
True i read on twop.com, that they wrote her out because someone has to die with all that shooting against all those cops.To make it more real.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:03 pm
I googled it and fund out they were all told they might be killed off, and Taraji was told about it last valentines day. So it was not her wanting off the show. It was just the way the show is evolving. I am ok with it, but dont really agree with the philosophy of needing to kill regulars off. So it does add more tension, because now you think well any of them could get killed. But if it was reese or finch the show would not be the same, and for me killing rot will be a bummer, although I imagine they will at some point.
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Subject: Re: Person of Interest Episode 3x09 "The Crossing" November 19, 2013 Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:24 am
I recommend to listen at least to the first five or ten minutes ... you can listen to Carter's funeral oration ... very well done podcast: