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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 14, 2015 12:49 pm

He is delusional if he thinks he came off as a hero, I would be surprised if he ever played again. I think he and Will are in for a rude awaking at the Reunion, Jeff will probably rake them over the coals
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 14, 2015 12:48 pm

Dan's Ponderosa Video:

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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 14, 2015 5:57 am

3 Q's with Jeff Probst:

Each week Jeff Probst will answer a few questions about the latest episode of Survivor: Worlds Apart.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Neither of the teams could figure out the reward phrase of “A reward with all the fixin’s,” even with your increasingly obvious clues. How do those clues work? Do you have it mapped out beforehand in terms of, “If it goes this long I’ll say this,” or is it more organic than that? Also, were you shocked at how long it took them? Was the Dream Team (who test out the challenges) as stumped as the contestants?
JEFF PROBST: That was a fun one for us because going into it we didn’t have much of an idea how long it would take. A lot of our Dream Teamers are fans, but a fair amount are locals as well so we couldn’t rely on them as a true gauge. As far as the clues, believe it or not, we do talk through ideas of what I could say just in case it happens. But I’ll admit this one went way beyond anything we ever even considered. I also thought it was interesting that Sierra wasn’t listening to me and Carolyn was—because I do talk so much during challenges that it’s not a bad strategy to block me out. Unless… I’m saying something that might help you! There was a point where I thought to myself, “Hmmm… maybe we went too far with this one!” Fortunately they pulled it out!

We’ve seen hardly any individual reward challenges this season. I like those because then you always have the drama of whom the winner will choose to take with them. Remarkably, the Survivor gods have once again smiled down upon you and you’ve gotten that picking drama anyway because of Rodney continually asking for someone to give up their slot. But why the move away from individual reward challenges? Was the thinking to give viewers a bit of both: team challenges for reward and individual ones for immunity?
There are a variety of reasons. Sometimes we decide to go the route of using reward challenges to see if we can mix up alliances by having, say, four people who don’t normally “talk” end up on the same “team” for that reward to see what it does to the dynamic. Sometimes we just have challenges that we want to use and they’re more “team” oriented. In seasons when we merge with a lot of people it’s also very hard to get proper coverage on 11 people, so sometimes we use team rewards until we get to a smaller number. But totally hear you and agree with you that for the most part we are better off doing individual rewards.

Now that it has played out in full, give me your thoughts on your first double vote advantage. I liked it because it is a threat out there, but not too powerful in that it can’t save you if A) Too many people vote against you, or B) Someone uses an idol. It is not a get out of jail free card, yet can unleash subtle wrinkles in play and a potential game-changing moment at Tribal Council (although not this time). What are your feelings on its application, how Dan used it, and whether we may see it again?
I really liked it. It was a big deal for us as a creative team to go for it. We’ve talked about it for years but felt it might be too much power, but clearly we’re beginning to ease up on that kind of thinking! I thought Dan played it well based on the information he had—you can’t blame someone when they get blindsided. Overall I was really happy with it and yes, I could see us using it again. Just a matter of when and where…

Big finale and big announcement of the new fan-voted Survivor cast coming up at the reunion next week. Tease us up, sir!
We have a great finale. I hope the fans like it. Lots of drama and fireworks and surprises. Plus some love! Mike still has his back against the wall – will anybody team up with him or will he remain a lone wolf? Carolyn has played a strong game and if she can get to the end she has a good argument. Rodney, despite his frustrations about his birthday, has played a very strong and “quiet” game of keeping his alliance together and would love to see him get a chance to plead his case. Sierra needs to make a move otherwise she is going to face a tough jury. This is what I mean when I say you have to make moves, otherwise you find yourself deep in the game with very little resume. Will has the tallest hill to climb. He’s the long shot at this point. It’s not out of the question but he’d have to really turn it on these last few days.

For next season, the voting for Second Chance is really fun to watch play out. I see the results daily and the top 10 is most definitely “in play.” I thought it would be very predictable, but it’s not. So fans who are voting, those votes are having an impact. I’m very excited to reveal the cast “live” next Wednesday during the reunion show. The selected players will leave directly from CBS Studios and begin their journey to location! Super cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 14, 2015 5:42 am

Yea boring episode, I figure the same applies next week, if Mike losses he is gone, if he doesn't , he, mama c, and sierra probably take out Rodney. I think the F3 will be Mike, Sierra, Will
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 14, 2015 12:36 am

sort of a boring ep, but was glad mike won the imm idol.
the ball i the maze was close  sierra was right there.
I cant believe they were so bad at throwing the hook out there, it isnt that hard!
and rodney was worse than usual, and again loses in the reward !!

but the tribal was good, I thought dan would not play his 2nd vote, then he does and votes C, so she was going,
Then she plays the idol and dan goes.

So the end was good. but it is still 3-2 so what happens now?
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Fri May 08, 2015 9:31 pm

I watched all the videos, less than 2 min ea and some of them changed my mind both for better and worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Fri May 08, 2015 6:23 pm

about the videos:
they start out with a scene form show they were on but then a new vid of them trying to get your vote comes in.

1. you might change your mind if you watch the vids
2. you can get some ideas n what to do or not do in your own vid.

I am going to watch all of them. and I might change my voting afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Fri May 08, 2015 6:07 pm

Ez wrote:
If Mike is I the Final 3 he won't lose, he has 4 guaranteed votes from Shiri and the no collars, which may be enough to win. Mike has gotten too good of an edit, Carolyn isn't likeable so I don't see her winning. I am voting for the same people every time,  but I remember them all so I don't need to watch the video

well you might see something deciding in the video !

Mike has gotten too good of an edit..... yeah so he should make final 3 , but I am not sure he can keep winning, so he needs
someone to ally with him.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 07, 2015 2:16 pm

If Mike is I the Final 3 he won't lose, he has 4 guaranteed votes from Shiri and the no collars, which may be enough to win. Mike has gotten too good of an edit, Carolyn isn't likeable so I don't see her winning. I am voting for the same people every time, but I remember them all so I don't need to watch the video
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 07, 2015 1:37 pm

well one person @ imdb said to watch the videos, and that she changed her mind on a couple of people.

So I voted last nite just on who I liked etc.
but now I think I may vote a little different every time I vote and that I will start watching the videos.
The video may make me like or not like the person, could go either way.

Jeff says he was surprised about the mike and C question of it beng a spoiler there, so I figure they dont win.
They might make final 3 but neither one of them wins.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 07, 2015 8:50 am

4 Q's with Jeff Probst:


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What do you think: Did Rodney make too big a deal about nobody giving up their reward to him on his birthday?
JEFF PROBST: One of the things I’m constantly presented with as the host of the show is, when I’m on the show or when I’m answering your questions each week, I’m answering from the point of view of Survivor, not Jeff Probst. And I’ve been feeling it very much with all of the comments against women. Between Rodney, Will and Dan, there’s been a lot of stuff going on. My job on Survivor is not to condone or condemn. My job is to solicit information: “How does that make you feel? Do you want to apologize? What do you think? Could that hurt you in the vote?” Personally, I have a different feeling.

So, in the answer to your question on Rodney, I would say from a show point of view, I think Rodney is losing his mind and I get why. It’s incredibly difficult to be deprived at this level—especially in Rodney’s case when he’s used to a lot of calories, and used to getting his way. He sort of does things on his own time, his own way with who he wants when he wants—that’s why he’s in the job he’s in. And while he’s a hardworking guy, he’s got a little bit of that No Collar attitude, like, “Yeah, maybe, maybe not.”

So I think for Rodney, it is about his birthday. His birthday is clearly important. I think he feels let down by these people who aren’t taking care of him, and has maybe lost track of the fact that they’re all in this game too. They’re all being deprived as well. They all want to eat too, and maybe they don’t want to bring him—maybe he’s not in their alliance, any number of reasons. He just doesn’t have that awareness right now, and I would chalk that up to the amount of days that he’s been on the show. I don’t know if Rodney’s birthday was on the second day of shooting if he would’ve been as offended.

But personally, when I watch it, I think, “What are you talking about?! It’s just another day! I mean, I know it’s your birthday, but dude, we’re in a million dollar game—you should have not done it if your birthday was so damn important!” So I can see both sides of it, but I think that one of the reasons that Rodney is so compelling is whether he’s saying that women should be held to a higher standard, or whether he’s saying this is a bunch of BS that nobody’s helping me out on my birthday, it’s compelling to watch. And then as a viewer you have to decide: Do you like it or not? Do you despise him or laugh at him? Are you in on the joke? Is Rodney just a funny guy with good impressions? Whatever [is] your opinion is your opinion.

We have seen so many schoolyard pick ‘ems this season, except we never actually see them take place. Explain the process of how they work in terms of choosing captains and deciding who picks first, because it has been a while since we saw one and people always ask me about it. Does it ever yield any drama?
I think in the past, we’ve shown them a few times. But they just eat up so much time because imagine watching this, and it’s interesting, but then you have to decide what you want to give up. I explain the challenge, I say we’re going to do a schoolyard pick, I walk over with a bag of rocks. Somebody picks yellow, somebody picks blue—you’re the two captains, take a spot over here. We do shoot it. We shoot everything just in case something bizarre happens. But now you have the two captains, now they have to rock-paper-scissor. “Who’s going to pick? All right, you go first. Okay you’ve got that person. All right, let them get to the mat. Now you go. All right, now you go again. Okay, now it’s your turn. And you pick again and now you pick again. You’ve got one pick left, who do you want? And that leaves you with you.”

And then you do a little Q&A, “How does it feel to be picked last?” or “How does it feel to not be picked at all?” if it’s uneven numbers. So when you’re in the edit bay and you’re looking at what you have to cut from the episode, there’s almost always more interesting reality or a more dramatic challenge, or a more interesting argument at Tribal Council than what is ultimately a bunch of shoe leather that I can explain quickly by just saying “here’s who they picked.” And you can read between the lines: that’s who they wanted. So that’s why we don’t show it.

I like to pretend that I have no heart and no soul, but even I get mushy when you guys do these rewards when you deliver supplies to a local orphanage or something. We know this is big for the contestants and a once in a lifetime experience for some of them, but how important is it for you all in production to give back to these communities that host you?
The whole thing about giving back is big for us, because what we never talk about is that Survivor brings in a lot of money for these communities—millions of dollars in actual dollars that are spent in the community. Plus, the hiring of local labor. Plus, the teaching of skills—a lot of times we’ll go into communities and people will come in and work with us as locals, and they will learn trades through our art department or different vocations. So on top of that, anything we can leave behind—in Guatemala we built a school, and in Africa I think we did the same thing. Or, in a case like this, going and really loading up a truck. And there’s often more stuff that you don’t even see because it’s simply too much.

It’s important to us because it’s symbolic. We’re coming here…we stay here for a long time. Our earliest team that gets here is the same team that leaves at the end, and they’re here six months. So that’s really getting to know people, and it is a way for us to say we really appreciate you hosting us and letting us come in and basically take over. And then there’s also the “adventure of a lifetime” element. You want the participants who have given up so much of their life—you do want them to have memories. Whether it’s watching turtles lay eggs, which is truly once in a lifetime, or whether it’s being the sponsor that gets to come in and deliver bikes and basketballs. I remember Woo with the basketball—just amazing with that reward. And I think for a lot of people, that was when they fell in love with Woo 100 percent because they saw his truth—he’s a really good person who was giving.

So it reveals story, it can turn relationships—sometimes an alliance will be formed because it’s such a bonding moment. So it’s just a win, win, win all the way around. And I remember last season when we did a baseball little league team, the excitement in the art department when Jordan Ferrer had all of the supplies and I walked into the office area and it was packed—filled with cleats and gloves and helmets and bats and baseballs. It was like Christmas, and you could see the excitement in our guys’ faces of being the guys that get to coordinate all this. It’s definitely cool. It always touches me because it’s real. There’s no staging, these aren’t actors, we aren’t paying these kids to pretend to be who they are. They’re just kids, and they don’t know what’s coming. And then this truck rolls up and we let them loose and all of the sudden they’re being consumed with toys and love and attention. Very fun.

You and I spoke last week about in our Q&A about some of the really harsh comments made by men like Will and Dan towards Shirin, and you referenced them again earlier. Looking ahead, I have to imagine this is going to be a reunion with…I don’t know if fireworks is the right word, but I have to assume we’re going to get a lot of discussion about what we saw out there and how people have been sitting with those comments eight months later.
Yeah, I think you can’t avoid it. And I haven’t talked to any of those guys since we left the show, so I’m really curious what they’re feeling. I have no idea if there are apologies coming or if they’re going to jump over and punch me out. I really have no idea. I only know that it’s been a while since we’ve seen this kind of a response, and if I were watching, I would feel the same way—there’s been quite a bit said and done. And then some hard to understand opportunities to recover that have been passed up, so I’m really curious once it’s all said and done to say, “Where’d it come from? What was it like to watch it? What are you feeling now? Have you had to defend it? Have you been getting support for it?” All kinds of things.

And I don’t really know what questions I want to ask until we sit down. I’m certainly not in attack mode, I’m just curious. But I will not have to be the host anymore. I don’t have to sit behind the wall of not being personal, or don’t editorialize. I can be as personal as I want because when I’m hosting the reunion show, I have an opinion. Now I’m just a guy. The show is over, there’s no million dollars at stake. So now I can ask questions the way I want, and I’m really curious to see how it goes.

Okay, tease next week’s penultimate episode for us.
Mike has no option as we’ve left him, other than to break something open or continue to win. The game, I guess it’s maybe not any different than any season in that you start to feel—not paranoia, but the tightening of a body. Mike has the advantage of being able to play loose because he has nothing to lose. But the people who feel they have something to lose—this alliance—you start to feel this pressure of, “What are we going to do? Is it going to be me? It can’t be me, I know you don’t want it to be you, but I don’t want it to be me.” It’s like when a football team starts playing defensively, and they sit back on their heels rather than playing offensively. That’s the only advantage I think Mike has, is, “Hey man, I’ve got nothing to lose…I can say and do whatever I want to any of you because all of you want to vote me out.”

The game has changed dramatically over the last five years, and we’ve never had this many seasons in a row where you didn’t know what was going to happen. You just don’t know. You can’t predict right now. You can’t. You don’t know because there’s too many variables, and people play too hard, and they’ll change their minds at the last minute. And that’s something that will be interesting in Second Chancers: if you have somebody from season 28, or 29 or 30—they just played this game. They’re ready. And you go back to Kelly Wiglesworth in season 1—the game was a walk then. You were skipping. People now have cleats on. They’re sprinting. It’s a completely different energy.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 07, 2015 8:29 am

After watching that I really dislike Shireen, let it go already, for someone to defend her would be bad for their game. I wouldn't have defended her either, I really hope she doesn't come back.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu May 07, 2015 8:21 am

Tyler's Ponderosa Video:

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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed May 06, 2015 8:47 pm

My ten guys are:

Shane, Jim, Terry, Jeff, Savage, Stephen, Troy, Spencer, Woo, and Joe (I forgot he was on this season lol)

My ten women:

Kelly, Peigh-gee, Monica, Natalie, Stephanie, Mikayla, Sabrina, Abi-Marie, Ciera, Kelly
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed May 06, 2015 8:42 pm

T5000 wrote:
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/second-chance/

you can vote for next season people here, just please dont vote for shirin or mama c
aka carolyn riviera to come back !!!!!!!!!!!

also jim rice was a millionaire, and so was brad culpepper. Shane was also rich didnt need the money by his own admission
and he would probably still be whining about his kid all season.


I don't look at Survivor as charity, so I don't care if they have money or not, especially in a ALL Star season, I just want the best players available. My only concern is that people are only going to vote in newer players because they don't remember the older players.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed May 06, 2015 8:39 pm

The big twist for the next season of Survivor was announced at the end of Wednesday night’s Worlds Apart episode, and we’ve got the exclusive scoop from both host Jeff Probst and the people that will be competing to play.

Thirty-two former (and current) players comprise a pool from which fans will vote to determine the entire cast for next season. The voting takes place at cbs.com/survivorsecondchance. Unlike CBS’ Big Brother: All-Stars season in 2006, in which viewers voted in only some cast members while the network and producers picked the rest (including Mike Boogie, who went on to win), this time, fans will pick all 20 players (the top 10 men and top 10 women) for the season, which will air in the fall.

Voting is open now, and goes until 9 p.m. on Wednesday, May 20th, one hour into this season’s finale. The cast will be announced that night at the Worlds Apart live reunion show—all 32 nominees will be present, and they’ll find out their fates live like everyone else.

The 32 possible players (full list is below) all have two things in common: They have only played Survivor once, and none of them won in their first time out. Among the wannabe contestants are old-school selections like season 1 runner-up Kelly Wiglesworth (who lost the first million dollar check by one vote to Richard Hatch), Jeff Varner and Kimmi Keppenberg from season 2 (The Australian Outback), Andrew Savage (Pearl Islands), and Terry Deitz and Shane Powers (Panama). Also on the list are four names (Woo, Spencer, Kass, and Tasha) from the thrilling Cagayan installment, as well as five faces from the current Worlds Apart season.

In fact, the inclusion of two particular Worlds Apart players could lead to a bit of controversy. While this next “Second Chance” season is clearly being billed as a contest for non-winners, two of the possibilities on the list—Carolyn Rivera and Mike Holloway—are still in contention for Worlds Apart. The list, then, seems like a pretty major spoiler that neither of them will win their current season.

What does Probst have to say about that? Where did the inspiration for the twist come from? Is the host worried about giving viewers all that power? And should we expect that all the most current players will be voted in, similar to what happened on Big Brother?

We asked Probst all of that and more. Read on for his answers and then peruse the full list of eligible contestants below that. (Also make sure to check out our Survivor gallery to read exclusive pitches from the contestants themselves as they tell you how they will play differently their second time out, should they be selected to compete.) But first, here’s my Q&A with the hostmaster general:

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You guys have been listening to the fans a lot lately—like giving us three seasons in a row with all new players—and now you’re giving the fans even more power by letting them pick your cast. Tell me how this new fan-voted twist came about.
JEFF PROBST: Well, like a lot of Survivor ideas, we’ve wanted to do this one for a long time because we knew we had a group of really good players who didn’t last in the game long enough to warrant being put on an all-star type of season. But we believed they had great game inside them if they were to be given a second chance. So the key came down to timing, because we always wanted the fans to be the deciders in this group. We wanted the fans to make the decision, and then we immediately wanted to be able to go shoot the season. So this is the first time our shooting schedule has allowed us to pull that off, because we’re actually shooting earlier in the year than we normally do. So it lined up. And the minute it did, we pitched it to CBS and they said, “This is great, this is the perfect time to do it. Let’s do it.”

What I love about it is that all the people competing for votes have only played once, so we’re not getting folks that have played two or three times already. I have to imagine that was a conscious decision to keep it feeling fresh.
That was the point. The point was, we have all these great players—people that we liked enough to put on the show—but in most cases, they got cut early…too early to have made the jury. And if they didn’t make the jury, then they probably weren’t known enough to be an all-star. And yet, you would look at them and think, “Man though, they had great game. If they had just lasted a couple of more votes, who knows?” There’s always going to be people who deserve a second shot because they just didn’t get far enough the first time, for whatever reason. And then the no winners thing was the other part of it—it’s not a second shot if you’ve already won. So it was people who have only played once and have not won.

Big Brother did a fan voted all-stars season back in 2006, but only allowed the audience to pick half of the cast so they could make sure that certain players they really wanted in the show made it regardless of being voted in or not. Any concern about giving this much power to viewers to pick the whole cast?
We’ve been on so long that our philosophy has evolved. Six or seven or eight years ago, we would not have given them the power to choose everybody for the exact same reason you just said. But as more time goes on and as our relationship with our audience deepens, I’m certainly a proponent of taking bigger chances. You said at the top of this that we continue to let our fans be involved, and I like to have fun on Twitter and say, “I hate memory challenges.” And then people go, “We love them! We love them!” And I’m like, “Okay, they’ll be back.” Those aren’t do or die decisions.

The real truth is that fans are much better at telling you what they don’t want—they’re not always so good at telling you what they do want. It’s like [Henry] Ford said: “If I’d asked people what they wanted, they would’ve wanted a faster horse.” I believe that to be true. Sometimes fans will say this is what we should do and they don’t know what they’re talking about. This is a case where the whole premise was based on picking people that we think either played a great game and it got cut off early, or they barely got started and we think they have a better game. Or, in the case of a couple of people, the first time they played, they were maybe lambed…they were virgins. And we feel like maybe they learned something and it’d be fun to watch them play a second time—kind of like Amber when she came back and everybody said “Why Amber?” And I still remember Lynne Spillman and I talking and saying, “Because what if? What if she’s figured it out? That would be fun to watch.”

So that was kind of the idea from the beginning is, when we do this, let them choose. The power we had was putting the list together, and as people will see, we took some chances. We put some people on here that are obvious, and we put some people on there that fans may go, “Wow, really? Huh.” It’s your call: Who do you want to see? You pick!

One thing I remember from the Big Brother voting is that for the most part, the people voted in were all from very recent seasons—because, you know, out of sight out of mind. Are you concerned that you might get all very recent contestants, and that folks from the very early seasons like Kelly, Kimmi, Jeff Varner and others might not make it because of how long ago they were on the show?
I think that’s a good question. In a perfect world, having Kelly Wiglesworth—who is the ultimate second chancer, because she was the first runner-up; she lost by one vote to Richard Hatch in the first season, so there’s certainly a little bit of nostalgia for someone like Kelly that you’d love to see—but you give it to the fans. And the beauty is, the people who are watching the show are telling you who they want. So if they choose everybody from the last five seasons, let’s go. I’m good with that. We have great people. I look at the people on this list and I’m happy to have any collection of 20—10 men and 10 women—and really, honestly, ultimately I don’t care. It’d be great if we had it diverse going back to season 1 all the way to season 30, because that would represent our entire run. But if that’s not what they decide, that’s okay. What was important to us was that we give you the choice. We’re giving you people that span the globe—it’s up to you who you want.

You are calling this twist “Second Chance,” and you clearly mentioned it’s for people that did not win the first time around. But you have two people in Mike and Carolyn that are still in contention for the current season airing. By having them be potential contestants in a second chance season, isn’t that a huge spoiler in big neon letters that they do not win this season?
Oh my God, I didn’t even think of this! You’ve just caught me off guard! [Laughs] As you would expect from Survivor, we found a way to add a little twist, a little layer of mystery, into the Second Chance voting. So the definition of Second Chance is, contestants who have only played once and never won. So, that means either Mike and Carolyn both lost, or one of them could be, ultimately, ineligible.

So people could throw all of their voting into Carolyn, and then if she wins Worlds Apart, you have to tell them that their votes don’t count? That’s kind of a bummer for people wasting all that time voting for her!
Well, that’s the way it goes. This is an interactive, fun game, and this is, in a way, like being blindsided. And the good news is, if it was Carolyn who won and she had a bunch of votes but wasn’t able to play, then whoever was the eleventh woman would suddenly be in the game and that would be fun for them. It’s just a fun way to do it, and I wouldn’t want it any other way. There’s like an implied agreement that everything that happens on Survivor will have some sort of “Huh, is that all there is to it? Or is there something else?”

Not to lobby, but I really think Shane Powers and Jim Rice would be fun to see again.
You are hitting on what we hope will happen, which is true fans will vote for people they remember. They may have to think for a minute, but I agree with you—that’s why Jim Rice is on there, because he was a really interesting guy, very conniving, good player, but got voted out early. What would happen if he had lasted a few more weeks? Who knows? He could’ve been a perennial all-star—that’s what fun about Second Chance. I can tell you one thing: from talking to these guys, there is a level of motivation that rivals even the most hardcore fan who finally gets on the show, because some of these people—like, Savage has been waiting since Season 6. That’s what, 13 years or something like that? Pining over this, thinking over and over again. Kelly Wiglesworth thinking about one vote didn’t change my life—that one damn vote. And hers will have been almost 16 years. So those people have had a lot of time to think about it, and I think that makes the stakes for them really big. And yet, someone will still be the first person voted out of Second Chancers.

If Michael Skupin hadn’t fallen in the fire, Jeff Varner’s whole deal in Season 2 could have been completely different as well.
If Jeff Varner didn’t step down for peanut butter! Jeff Varner said he has not had peanut butter since, and that was Season 2, fourteen plus years ago—because he stepped down and got voted out. And he got voted out on a rule that we used to have, which is if there was a tie, then whoever had the most total votes at that point went home. We since got rid of it, because it didn’t really seem like that was an appropriate way to break a tiebreaker. So Varner could make the case that “I was voted out on something you guys don’t even use anymore.” Savage could make the case, “I got voted out on the Outcast twist,” which I’ve said is one of the few times I think we blew it. So there are those kinds of stories, and then there are stories like Natalie, who played with Boston Rob and the story about her was—a lot of people would say she was just a young girl who was dragged to the end. But, in being dragged for 39 days, she was being dragged by one of the best—did she pick anything up? I don’t know. If you’re interested, vote for her.

Woo kept saying after his season that he did not regret taking Tony to the end, and would do the same thing again. If he makes it back in, I would be fascinated to see if he would actually stick with that line of thinking or not.
Yeah, Woo is definitely a well-liked guy. The kids loved Woo. I’ve wondered—should I be in an alliance with Woo? Or does he still have some resentment and bitterness and maybe that’s a bad choice, I don’t know. But he’s a likeable guy. And all of the people we’ve mentioned so far—if all of those people made it, I’d be through the roof. They’re all great—no matter who you pick, I could give you a story about why I think they’d be fun.

So how is the announcement of who actually makes the cast going to work?
Here’s how this is going to work—you vote up until the first hour of the finale when we’re live. We’re in Los Angeles, we kick off the show, we start running that last episode. And for an hour, the polls are still open.

Up until 9 p.m. Eastern.
Then they close. Then we finish this season, we have a reunion show, and in the audience will be the 32 people with their suitcases ready to go. And at the end of the reunion show, we will do a live reveal of the new cast and they will literally leave the studio, get on a bus, and start heading out. And what I love about these guys is they know that—they know that it’s going to be in front of everybody, and you’re either in or you’re out. And that speaks to what I talked about: that motivation. They don’t care that they might be embarrassed by not getting the votes, because they want it bad enough that they’re willing to risk that. That’s a ballsy move, to sit in an audience on a live television show and know that you may be told yes or you may be told no. And if you’re told no, it really is being voted out. The audience of your favorite show just told you, “We don’t want to see you, sorry.”
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed May 06, 2015 8:37 pm

Yeah, so-so episode. Getting rid of Tyler was the smarter move. Only 2 episodes left, you can vote everyday until the finale
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed May 06, 2015 8:35 pm

I've already voted, and Jim and Shane both got votes from me,I thought they played the game well. I didn't vote from anyone this season, I still think Mike will win so he would be ineligible to come back. I went with a lot of early season people, Kelly wigglesworth, she is the original runner up, she lost to hatch by 1 vote. I am excited and will be voting everyday
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PostSubject: ep 312   Wed May 06, 2015 8:34 pm

well sort of a flat boring ep ?? I dont know who is directing or editing this season but they suck !

Carolyn wins Im which I didnt care for, but she voted her bud / friend out lol so much for her principles.

that helps mike as tyler was his main male threat on challenges.
Hopefully he finds a idol or wins next IM.


Either it is mike or one of the others next time.

Rodney was upset about the reward and his bday lol how old is he 9 ?? Laughing
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PostSubject: vote   Wed May 06, 2015 8:29 pm

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/second-chance/

you can vote for next season people here, just please dont vote for shirin or mama c
aka carolyn riviera to come back !!!!!!!!!!!

also jim rice was a millionaire, and so was brad culpepper. Shane was also rich didnt need the money by his own admission
and he would probably still be whining about his kid all season.

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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:17 am

Shirin Ponderosa Video:

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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:40 am

3 Q's with Jeff Probst:

Each week Jeff Probst will answer a few questions about the latest episode of Survivor: Worlds Apart.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: There has been a lot of unfortunate behavior and comments by men (Will, Dan, Rodney) towards and about women this season. I’ve heard from a lot of fans that are very upset about that, and I’ve also heard from some others who appreciate that we’re seeing a forum in which these people are called out for their attitudes. Talk a little bit about the show’s responsibility in terms of casting so many people that have been acting and speaking in such a disrespectful fashion, and then also your decision making in terms of how much to show of this type of behavior.
JEFF PROBST: One of the key elements in the premise of Survivor is that the game is to be played with people from various walks of life. In a perfect world, it’s a tapestry of people from different parts of the country, raised with different religious and political beliefs, with a range of IQ’s and physical abilities. You then put them in extreme conflict, in this case, being abandoned on an island, deprive them of everything else and force them to work together while voting each other out. It’s a tremendously stressful situation and typically, the tougher it gets, the more a person’s façade is stripped away and the more truth is revealed.

And because Survivor is ultimately a game about social politics and the relationships you form with others, it’s only a matter of time before personal opinions and points of view begin to clash. Those battles can be funny, annoying, cathartic, deeply personal and at times incredibly hurtful. They often evoke strong reactions from the other players and from the audience.

While I certainly don’t think of Survivor as a social or moral compass, I do believe strongly in doing our best to tell the contestants stories accurately— flattering or not. There is obviously a touch of bias in every editing decision you have to make about what to put in the show and what to leave out, but our primary goal is to always to reflect the essence of their adventure. That includes moments that show them at their most heroic as well as moments that expose a less than attractive side of someone’s personality.

I really can’t imagine a scenario in which we would not show a scene like the one between Will and Shirin simply because we were afraid that viewers would be upset. That’s just not the way we approach the show. There is no denying that was a very difficult exchange to witness and no matter how many times you watch it, it does not get any easier or any less emotional. But, that level of honesty and vulnerability from people who have been stripped to their very core is a large part of the reason I am still excited to be a part of the show.

For me it often comes down to one question: Does an action that we take under duress define us? Does it speak to the truest part of our character? If so, does that mean we live most of our life behind a mask of social politeness that belies our natural tendencies? Because, to be fair, I have to share that Will was nothing but delightful throughout the entire casting process and most of the show and I imagine in the bar where he works he has a lot of regulars who love him. Rodney would argue that his comments about women were never meant to offend—in fact he feels the same way about his own mother who is the light of his life. And Dan would tell you that he is adored by many people, is one of the most loyal friends you could ever have and loves his wife, as he said, “like you read about.”

Nobody is ever happy when they see themselves in an unflattering light. We don’t want to see ourselves that way. But sometimes we say and do things that we wish we could take back. In Will’s case, I am curious if, upon reflection he will choose to publicly apologize to Shirin at the live Reunion show. With Rodney, I hope to talk to his mom to hear her take on her son. I expect that she will help us better understand where he is coming from and then his story will probably make more sense. With Dan, I am not sure what to expect. Dan is one of the most colorful individuals to ever be on the show. As he said to us in casting many times, one of his main goals was “to be remembered.” Mission accomplished. The question is, did Dan’s desire to be remembered compel him to go a bit over the top with some of his comments? Are they authentic to who he is? And if so, do those comments define him?








As for the audience, I believe they are on this ride with us. Survivor is a devilishly fun game and a big part of the appeal is watching human behavior play out in front of you every Wednesday night.

You awarded both a male immunity and a female immunity this week, which I actually do like. However, you also know all too well that I spend my off-hours moonlighting as an unpaid volunteer for the Fairness Police, and in this case it meant the women had a 1 in 3 chance of getting immunity while the men only had 1 in 5. Any worry about that discrepancy and not having an even chance for everybody?
Given how you have posed the question, the simple answer is no, I don’t see an issue with this situation. In fact, couldn’t you make the argument that everybody’s odds actually increased as a result of the two idols? Similar to the theme of my earlier answer, we really do strive to keep the game as absolutely fair as possible at all times and so far every time we have done dual immunity idols it has felt right.

Mike tells everyone at Tribal that he is going to give Shirin his immunity idol thereby forcing the alliance of six to vote for each other. He was bluffing, of course, and did not use it, but I thought it was a pretty savvy move to start to turn folks against each other. What do you make that move and what would you have done in Mike’s position? Do what he did? Actually give Shirin the idol? Never take the idol out and keep it a secret? What say you?
I’m with you: I was pretty impressed and really surprised by Mike’s move! Not sure I would have thought to do that. It was psychological warfare. He dropped the fear bomb right in the lap of the alliance of six. It’s a great example of how one small action can change the game. Now there are some obvious cracks in the alliance that he might be able to exploit. Brilliant! As for actually playing the idol or not—that’s a really tough call to make from the armchair. I guess it’s really about odds. If you give your idol up for someone else it better result in you being in charge of the numbers because otherwise your odds of going home increase, because now you are vulnerable. If you keep it, you know you have at least one more week of security and that is huge.

What I really enjoyed about Mike’s move was he gave the alliance of six so many dilemmas to deal with at once: 1) Am I going to play the idol for Shirin? 2) If I do play it, and you all vote for her, then she is safe and one of you will be going home. 3) My one vote could decide who is voted out and if you think it’s you, you better think about changing your vote to someone else. Fantastic! Though Shirin was voted out, Mike accomplished a major goal. He showed dissention in the ranks. He opened a crack. Now he has to pry it open and wedge his way in.

Okay, sir, what can you tease up for next week?
It’s Rodney’s birthday. Did you hear me? It’s RODNEY’S BIRTHDAY!
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:02 am

I thought he should have played it and tried to find it again before next vote.
What he did with bluff might have worked, but they split and voted dan.

They are just sticking to the final 6 thing, which is going to bite some of the ones like dan later.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:22 pm

WHat a completely wasted vote, Shireen was right, she is not a threat at all, to win a comp or the game. I hate it when people play like sheep. Also, I didn't think it was smart of Mike to show everyone his idol if he wasn't going to play it. Now, when he doesn't win immunity they know to split the vote so his vote will be meaningless. If know one knows he has it he could have taken out someone with one vote.
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PostSubject: Re: Survivor 30: Worlds Apart   Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:20 pm

Once I am finished with school I want to get a professional video made. I actually think I would be better at the game now since I am in my 30's, wiser, more patient etc.
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