Arrow Episode 2x20 "Seeing Red" April 23, 2014

ARROW
Air Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2014
Time Slot: 8:00 PM-9:00 PM EST on The CW
Episode Title: (#220) "Seeing Red"

"Seeing Red"

ROY SPINS OUT OF CONTROL - The mirakuru sends Roy (Colton Haynes) into an uncontrollable rage and he unleashes on the city. After Roy's deadly fight with a police officer, Oliver (Stephen Amell) realizes the mirakuru has taken over Roy completely and must figure out a way to stop him. Things get more complicated after Sara (Caity Lotz) declares that Roy is too far gone and the only way to stop him is to kill him. Meanwhile, Thea (Willa Holland) believes she can breakthrough to Roy so she goes on camera at Moira's (Susanna Thompson) campaign rally to lure him to Verdant. Her ploy works but after Roy attacks Thea, Team Arrow unleashes on him.

Doug Aarniokoski directed the episode written by Wendy Mericle & Beth Schwartz (#220).

Source: Arrow on The CW | TheFutonCritic

Here are the promo pics for ep 2x20:

So Roy goes nuts, I missed the first, only saw the end, and ollies mom gets skewered, so she may be on Ncis next year?
Slade wins round 3 for sure.
I wonder if thea is still mad at her mom??
now that she is dead will she still be pissed about some stupid lies to protect her?
it was a good death for Moira though, she showed courage and saved her bratty daughter.
All this after sara takes off LOL some GF?? hopefully she goes far away and stays there.

Ollie has made some bad choices,
1 going on the boat trip !!
2. picking sara over shado
3. trying to kill slade instead of giving him the cure

Thea will probably be mad at Ollie now, I don't think he chose Sara over Shado, he would have tried to save them both, the Dr was just nuts. What is the point of a secret identity if you are going to tell everyone your secret, granted Moira guessed it, but it looks like next week he is going to tell Thea. These last fewe eps are going to be great.

Slade said one more had to die before it is over, could he mean ollies kid, or sara,laurel, or felicity??
And Roy man they need a hulk bunker to lock him up in !! LOL

I think either at end or next season they show us ollies kid.

I found an interview with the head writer, he said that the kid will be addressed next season. I would post it but it won't let me post the link here yet.

Arrow Post-Mortem: Andrew Kreisberg Talks About What Just Happened


by Craig Byrne April 23, 2014



Episode 2x20 of Arrow featured one of the biggest tragedies in the show’s history – which is saying something, considering the fates of people like Robert Queen, Tommy Merlyn, and Shado. This one stung greatly because most of the audience didn’t see it coming.
The Grim Reaper struck and it became time to say goodbye to another familiar face — Moira Queen, played by Susanna Thompson since the series’ pilot.
“As with Colin Donnell, it was difficult,” Andrew Kreisberg told a group of journalists last week in a Q&A after this episode was screened. “Susanna has been with the show from the beginning, and she was one of our ‘big gets’ early on that really signaled to the audience and to reviewers that this wasn’t your average CW superhero show. Like with Colin Donnell, these last episodes are her pinnacle. I think this is as good as anything that’s on television, and unfortunately because of the kind of show it is, it probably won’t be recognized as such. Truthfully, you see all of those scenes with her and Stephen, and her importance to the show in helping Willa and Stephen go from solid actors to amazing actors, is due to sharing screen time with her,” he continued.




“The decision really was, just like with Tommy, ‘where is her trajectory going’?” he explained. “In Season 1, she had this incredible secret, that she was part of the Undertaking, and she suffered for it, and went to jail for it, and then we’ve discovered she had an even better secret, which was that Thea is really the daughter of Malcolm Merlyn. When that secret blew up, it split the whole family apart. Obviously we’ve been taking steps to bring people back together again, and when we were talking about the future, it was only going to be powerful if Slade really changed the game by doing something truly monstrous. If Moira wins the mayorship, if she makes up with her kids, what is she? And what is Moira without a giant secret? And if they all forgive her, and then there’s some other giant secret, for us, it sort of felt like we were becoming a soap opera, where it was ‘well yes, you tried to blow up the city, and yes, you lied about this, and now you’ve lied about this other thing!’ It really just sort of felt like, in a way, she could die a hero’s death, and also die this person who was conflicted, because even as she’s saying ‘hey, we have to tell the truth,’ we’re seeing that she’s kept this other horrible secret. You just literally can’t change her, and she literally goes to the grave, despite the fact that she sacrifices herself for her children, which is so amazing,” he continued.





Moira’s dedication to her kids will be addressed in next week’s show, which will see characters like Walter and Raisa at Moira Queen’s funeral. “There’s a line in the next episode where Walter says to Thea ‘your mother showed you how much she loved you in ways few parents can,’ and yet she was still lying. That was the essence of her character. We felt like ending it at this time left you with that great feeling of what an amazing character she was, rather than letting her become a caricature. Her death, just like with Tommy, has a profound impact on everyone in the series. It certainly is what’s going to drive Oliver in these last three episodes, and it’s going to drive Thea, not only in these last three episodes, but also into Season 3,” he teased.
As for Moira knowing Oliver’s secret, Kreisberg admitted that they had always talked about the idea that Moira knew that Oliver was the Arrow.  “There’s actually been a couple of other places where we were like ‘oh, this is where she should let him know.’ We felt like one of the great things about last year’s season finale was when Oliver walks in to talk to her, he’s not Oliver Queen. He’s the Arrow. He’s like ‘we’ve got to stop this,’ and she’d be low IQ if she wasn’t like ‘wait a minute!’ But we always liked that she had never told him, and everything felt like it came together in this one episode that, again, yes, secrets are a tough thing. It’s one of the most interesting things about writing this show, is ‘when are secrets good and when are secrets bad?’ Even for Oliver, he hasn’t told Laurel, and it’s because he had an idea in his head that she shouldn’t know,” he explained. “It’s a complicated thing. We love that we have a superhero show where the heroes are doing the wrong thing a lot of the times, and making bad decisions, even with the best intentions. I think that’s ultimately the thing about Moira. We always said she’s doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, and everything she does, she does because she loves and wants to protect her children, even if that means blowing up a city, lying to them, hurting their feelings… and I think one of the most interesting things for us was realizing that our villain Moira and our hero Oliver were essentially doing the same thing, and having Thea call them out on it.”

T5000 wrote:

Slade said one more had to die before it is over, could he mean ollies  kid, or sara,laurel, or felicity??
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Ok, after ep 2x22 we know, who's the one Slade meant ... Starling City ... I hadn't  thought of this possibility ...   
Well, after all "killing" Starling City would include all of Ollie's family and friends anyways ...