| | Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) | |
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| Subject: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:34 am | |
| GRIMMAir Date: Friday, May 20, 2016Time Slot: 8:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on NBC Episode Title: (#521/522) "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" Season 5 Finale"BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO"A DEADLY SHOWDOWN IS ON THE HORIZON AS BLACK CLAW TIGHTENS ITS GRIP ON PORTLAND - SHAUN TOUB, DAMIEN PUCKLER, JACQUELINE TOBONI AND HANNAH R. LOYD GUEST STAR - Black Claw makes a strategic move against Hank (Russell Hornsby) that shocks everyone and sends Nick (David Giuntoli) on a war path. Hadrian's Wall ramps up their investigation as they seek out a mysterious man named Bonaparte (guest star Shaun Toub). Meanwhile, Adalind (Claire Coffee) and Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) must learn to deal with their new and very unpredictable reality with Diana (guest star Hannah R. Loyd). Bitsie Tulloch, Silas Weir Mitchell, Reggie Lee and Bree Turner also star. Source: NBC | TheFutonCritic
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sat May 07, 2016 10:49 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sat May 07, 2016 11:50 am | |
| I wonder what they have planned for diana and if she is now a regular.
So it is a 2 hour finale. That is good way to do it.
Also wonder about how the stick will be used. | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sat May 21, 2016 4:57 pm | |
| WTF!!!!! NO!!! Meisner .... Renard, you epic asshole!! I hope Nick is gonna get you soon!!! | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sat May 21, 2016 6:02 pm | |
| Just wow!!! That two-parter finale was the hell of a ride! Kept me on the edge of my seat for every second! Some of the best and most thrilling Grimm time I ever had. Action-packed with cool twists and turns. Can't wait already for season 6! What's happening with Juliette/Eve? With Bonaparte gone (yeah, you'd better not hurt mommy Adalind, you dumbass! ) will ass Renard just try to step in and and continue the Black Claw thing? Can Diana be controlled somehow at all? What's the power of this wooden stick they found in Germany? Is it really only a healing device? Or are there hidden dark and dangerous side effects? Did it remove the Hexenbiest powers from Juliette?? Now that they'd need them so desperately ... And R.I.P. Meisner! That he's gone, was the big downer of this epic season finale! I'm afraid that with only 13 eps ordered the 6th season might be the last one ... I so hope I'm wrong though ... | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sun May 22, 2016 2:03 am | |
| It was a good finale, I was surprised.
What's happening with Juliette/Eve?..... I think she was rebooted, and is now Juliette again, no more eve.
With Bonaparte gone (yeah, you'd better not hurt mommy Adalind, you dumbass! Wink ) will ass Renard just try to step in and and continue the Black Claw thing?..... I figured out during 1st half that diana would probably kill that dude, and sure enough she did. Renard probably will try to continue it. since you say only 13 eps, I figure he will be the main bad guy, and he has diana on his side!
Can Diana be controlled somehow at all?.... maybe with the stick, stab her and she becomes normal kid ? and about the stick I doubt any dark stuff as after effect just not enough time for that. S6 probably is the last one.
And R.I.P. Meisner!..... yeah guess they didnt need him, and that is why I think no more eve. It is all team grimm now.
They have wrapped up most storylines from the past, so I salute them on that, the keys diana, the council, the royals. So that makes me think they are getting ready to end it.
It got more eps than poi ! already.
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sun May 22, 2016 5:08 am | |
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What's happening with Juliette/Eve?..... I think she was rebooted, and is now Juliette again, no more eve. ... Yeah, probably, but has she also lost her Hexenbiest powers? They could go both directions with that. I guess we won't know until season 6 will start. | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sun May 22, 2016 5:44 am | |
| - http://www.ew.com wrote:
- David Giuntoli talks Grimm's shocking season 5 finale
Plus: Nick's future with Adalind and those unexpected magical stick side effects by Lindi Smith Posted May 20 2016 — 10:00 PM EDT Season 5 of Grimm has come to a close with an explosive, action-packed, and emotional two-hour finale episode. “The Beginning of the End” had it all — from epic fight scenes to a heartwarming moment between Monroe and Rosalee. The stage certainly has been set for a dramatic sixth season. We caught up with David Giuntoli, who plays Nick, to get the scoop on Eve’s (or should we say, Juliette’s?) unexpected reaction to the miracle stick, the future of Nick and Adalind’s relationship, and what he hopes to see in season 6. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: We saw the miracle stick heal Monroe and Nick, but with Eve, it had a little bit of a different effect. It seems to have returned her emotions. Should we assume that she’s back to being Juliette now? Yeah, that stick is to hexenbiests what penicillin is to human beings. It just kind of cures all. The stick looks like it cured Juliette of her mortal wounds, or would-have-been mortal wounds, and in the meantime also kind of cured her of her hexenbiest side effects, I suppose. And we see that with Juliette, and I think that if that moment had happened at any other moment, it would have been a much longer moment, but we were in the process of being ambushed so Nick didn’t have a lot of time to process that. But it’s in the back of Nick’s mind. Let’s talk about the fate of Nick and Adalind’s relationship. Not only do we have Juliette as a potential threat to that relationship now, but there’s also Diana who could very well just kill Nick in his sleep if she decides she doesn’t like him. I don’t think Diana is evil at heart. Again, she’s kind of like the circus animal where we get so surprised if they hurt us, but they’re not supposed to be juggling. That elephant isn’t supposed to be balancing something on its nose. As for Adalind, I think that Nick understands that Adalind was being put in an impossible situation and she’s being blackmailed with her family. And he’s not happy that she’s “with” Renard right now, but I think he can forgive her. What do you think was going through Nick’s mind in the final moment of the episode when he and Renard were just staring at each other? I’m going to let the viewers figure that out, but I’m going to give them multiple choices. One: God, Renard is sexy. I hope this ends in a kiss. Two: I am going to take that sword and shove it… what do I say here? Okay, two: Let’s have a melee to the death. Three: Let’s politically solve this. If Renard tries to make the switch back to the light side and be a good guy again, could his relationship with the gang ever be repaired? No, he’s not infected with some spell. I think Renard just wants power right now. So, I think it’d be hard for him to come back to the gang, but anything can happen on Grimm. Remember when Nick was a zombie? Anything can happen. Can we expect to see Black Claw rolling over into the next season? Oh, that group is so done. They’re not gonna come for me again; I killed like 30 people that tried to get me. Now it’s Renard versus Nick. I think. What are you hoping to see with Nick’s character in the next season? We’ve built such rich histories for all of our characters now. I kind of hope we have some time to steep in our main characters and focus a little less on Black Claw and stuff like the exterior, evil groups. Let Juliette come back and watch the fallout of that. The writers brilliantly set up this scenario where Nick’s now happily with Adalind and they have a kid. And what in the world, how do we explore that? I don’t think it’s something that should just be glossed over. You know, Monroe and Rosalee are having a kid. That is a beautiful moment. I think it’s wonderful. Two different wesen together, kind of getting over their differences. And I think there is time to explore all of that. How is Nick going to react if Monroe and Rosalee don’t choose him as the godfather of their baby? He’ll just quietly resent them for the rest of the series. | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sun May 22, 2016 5:50 am | |
| - http://tvline.com wrote:
- Grimm Finale: EPs Talk [Spoiler]'s Death, Rosalee's Secret, [Spoiler]'s 'Complex' Return and More
By Kimberly Roots / May 20 2016, 7:00 PM PDT
Stick a sword in it — Renard, you wanna do the honors? — because Grimm is done for the season. Friday’s two-hour finale saw the deaths of three players, including Meisner (sniff!), and some intriguing developments for various members of the Scooby Gang. Here’s a quick recap: Hadrian’s Wall identified Bonaparte, a Zauberbiest who helped found Black Claw, as being the insurgent group’s top man on the ground in Portland. Meanwhile, at Renard’s mansion, Bonaparte used his powers to petrify Adalind briefly, then promised to hurt her children if she ever removed the engagement ring he put on her finger as yet another means of tying her to Renard. Diana, too, wanted her folks to get back together and stay that way. So by using her toys, voodoo-doll fashion, she manipulated Adalind and the new mayor into a hot makeout session that nearly ended between the sheets. And when the little girl perceived Rachel as a threat to her folks’ reunion, she killed the campaign manager. Remotely. By suffocating/choking her with her own sheets.
Black Claw pulled a fast one on Hadrian’s Wall by leading Nick, Eve, Trubel away from headquarters long enough for the hate group to massacre everyone left behind. Meisner fought valiantly, but he was no match for Bonaparte’s Darth Vader-like death grip — though Renard was the one who finally shot his former ally, to put him out of his misery. “You are compassionate, and that’s dangerous for all of us,” a highly displeased Bonaparte informed the new mayor. An enraged Nick confronted Renard at the police station, which led the two men to throw down in the captain’s office. Nick wound up arrested and transferred to the all-Black Claw north precinct, where Bonaparte made him a deal: Hand over a book of Grimm lineage — which was part of Monroe’s uncle’s stash — “and you can have your son back.”
Just then, Eve and the gang descended upon the precinct, and a massive shootout followed. As the über Hexenbiest fought Bonaparte, she took a giant shard of glass to the gut and began to bleed out; Nick hurried her to the loft, then used the magic stick to heal her wound. Still, she had a violent seizure and then passed out, alarming everyone. After Monroe, Truble and Rosalee arrived, Diana astral-projected herself into the loft and warned them — thanks to Adalind — that Black Claw was on its way to the fortified apartment. So everyone except for Nick climbed down into the tunnels to hide. That’s where it became clear that Juliette may be resurfacing in Eve’s psyche (“I feel a lot,” the assassin tearfully said to Trubel); that’s also where Rosalee chose a really inopportune moment to tell Monroe what she’d known for most of the episode: “I’m pregnant.” (P.S. He was overjoyed.) Back upstairs, Nick fought off Black Claw henchmen (and applied the stick to himself when he got hurt) until only he, Bonaparte and Renard remained. The older man choked Nick like he did Meisner, and it appeared that this time, the former captain wasn’t going to interfere. But then Diana, via her doll, made Renard thrust a sword through the Black Claw boss — who she knew hurt her mother earlier in the episode — and Bonaparte fell to the ground, dead, while Nick and Renard stared at each other, dumbfounded. Phew! For some insight on the supercharged, supersized finale, we turned to series co-creators/EPs David Greenwalt and James Kouf and star David Giuntoli. Read on to hear what they have to say about what’s next for the Scooby Gang.
TVLINE | The finale had three big fight scenes. Which was the hardest to pull off? KOUF | They were pretty easy for us. We just told Bert [Barba, director] to do them. [Laughs] GREENWALT | There is a moment of reckoning coming with Nick and the captain and lots of moments of reckoning for everybody. KOUF | When we delivered the last few scripts, our producers’ hair caught fire. GIUNTOLI | Relationships and fight scenes: Both of these things are kind of pains in the ass, but also very fun and worthwhile. It’s pretty fun as an actor to do that stuff. Because Nick often has to be so hurt and in such a dark place. When I’m fighting in a fight scene all day long — because it’s all day long — you just kind of do it. [Laughs] TVLINE | I loved that Nick’s stove was used as a battering ram — twice! KOUF | [Laughs] Kitchens are dangerous places. GREENWALT | Whatever’s at hand!
TVLINE | Meisner dies in the finale. Why did you think now was a good time for him to go? KOUF | Well, it was just reality. [Black Claw] tricked our people into leaving HW unguarded, or down a few men, and that’s what they were looking for: the opportunity to go in — GREENWALT | — and wipe them out. Meisner happened to be there, so he got it. KOUF | It was too much for even him. TVLINE | Damien Puckler, who plays Meisner, has been with the show since Season 3. What was his reaction when he found out his character was being killed? KOUF | We actually forgot. GREENWALT | We forgot to let him know! He found out when he got the script. KOUF | We were so busy writing the last two that we didn’t realize when he got the script. GREENWALT | He got it before we thought he was gonna get it. He’s a tremendous guy. For one thing, he does all his own stunts. You hear people claim that, but he actually does it… He took it really well. We don’t know how, but we would hope that he’s not gone forever. But these things have to happen. TVLINE | Is Hadrian’s Wall finished, or just depleted in Portland? KOUF | Depleted in Portland. TVLINE | So there are are other pockets of it that might be able to come in and help? KOUF | Yes. But also, Black Claw isn’t doing too well in Portland now, either. TVLINE | Bonaparte made Adalind wear a ring. Is that ring in play, moving into next season? GREENWALT | Oh yeah. KOUF| Everything’s still in play. It’s kind of a new world. There has been so much damage done to both sidesm and with what the stick does, it opens up other doors to what the hell is going on in our world. GIUNTOLI | Can we give a little shout-out to the actor, Shaun Toub? He’s just brilliant. TVLINE | Did the trimming of the episode order affect how you’re approaching story for next season? KOUF | We don’t actually know what we’re going to get yet. GREENWALT | We’re assured of 13, which is more than half the season. There may or may not be more episodes. It may or may not be the last season. These are things we don’t yet know. We’re certainly thinking of arcs for next year, and then [the episode order] will determine how long it takes to do that. TVLINE | Will the premiere pick up right where the finale leaves off? KOUF | Yeah. GREENWALT | That’s the plan. Right at that very moment: What happens next? KOUF | There are too many unanswered moments to jump ahead.
TVLINE | Fans have been wanting Rosalee to get pregnant for a long time. Why is now the right time? GREENWALT | It seemed like a great contrast. She says, “What kind of world is this going to be?” So you have this contrast of this pure love and this horror that’s happening all around them and to people who are like them. So it’s a moment of confidence in one another. Plus, it was really touching. It was a moving, little emotional arc-ette to have in these last couple of episodes. GIUNTOLI | Rosalee’s going to have a baby. The fans are going to get what they want. Kids are cute, but infants, you don’t want to work with. I want to be the only person soiling myself on set all day. TVLINE | Eve showing signs of Juliette returning: What can you tell me about what’s really going on? GREENWALT | Well, the feelings have come back. KOUF | The stick opened up part of her. There are unintended consequences to the use of that stick. So, just like everything else. GREENWALT | There’s part of her that was dead, that she had killed, that they had killed. Suddenly it was awakened. And because she’s a Hexenbiest, it had a super effect. So we’ll have to see what happens with the Eve side of her personality and now having all these feelings, which is going to include a lot of guilt. It’ll be complex.
TVLINE | Nick only gets a glimpse of what’s going on with Eve, but what do you think will be his reaction when he considers that Juliette — or part of her — might be back? I think there’s going to have to be a major come-to-Jesus moment, or a dozen of those. Because she did so many terrible things to me and my family, but you have to remember: Juliette did all of these things under the influence of a power that happened to her as a side effect of something she was doing to try to help me. How did it happen? She turned into Adalind, and it was for the benefit of Nick. …Will she remember? Will she hear about what happened? Or does she know? And what does she feel? Look, if people weren’t literally storming my place of residence as she came to, [Nick’s reaction] would’ve happened right there. But 50 stuntmen who were hired to die were breaking into my apartment, so what are you gonna do? TVLINE | Did you continue the scene, to shoot what happens immediately after the cliffhanger? GIUNTOLI | We have not shot the next part of the cliffhanger… We also didn’t quite know how it was going to end. We shot alternate endings. There was a take where Renard still had the sword in his hand, there was a take where he throws it down… There’s a kiss. We shot that — in Sasha’s dreams! [Laughs] …I think [the end of the episode] respects the audience. It could have been a cliffhanger with me being shot on the ground and then, ooh!, I come to. The stick was in my pocket! We’ve done that before. There’s only so many ways this can go with the captain and Nick. Either we get into a huge melee, or the captain tries to somehow recruit me to his side. I don’t see how else it could go. I’m not going to say, “Let’s deal with this later.” It was pretty cool. Nick got to be a big old hero again. It had been a little while. When Nick closes the tunnel door and I’m like, “I got this!,” that’s kinda badass. | |
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| Subject: Re: Grimm Episode 5x21/5x22 "BEGINNING OF THE END, PARTS ONE AND TWO" May 20, 2016 (Season 5 Finale) Sun May 22, 2016 7:22 pm | |
| well that reads like J is still a HB. They may have more than 13 eps! and may or may not be the last season !! lol They need to let them know before they start writing !
It is on fridays, I would do at least 16 for S5 if I were head of nbc. and let them know beforehand if it was last one or not. | |
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