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PostSubject: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:29 am

THE 100
Air Date: Thursday, March 03, 2016
Time Slot: 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on The CW
Episode Title: (#307) "Thirteen"

"Thirteen"

FLASHBACK TO A DARKER TIME - Lexa (guest star Alycia Debnam-Carey, "Fear the Walking Dead") tries to maintain peace and order within the clans, and Clarke (Eliza Taylor) uncovers a strange and game-changing truth. Meanwhile, a flashback takes us into the darker chapter of humanity's past. Paige Turco, Isaiah Washington, Henry Ian Cusick, Bob Morley, Marie Avgeropoulos, Devon Bostick, Lindsey Morgan, Christopher Larkin, Richard Harmon and Ricky Whittle also star.

Dean White directed the episode written by Javier Grillo-Marxauch (#307).

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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:34 am

Promo pics for episode 3x07:





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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:35 am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0613MwxK0Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3C_1mhDIDQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETBkkbz8BbE


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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:56 pm

As sad as this episode was, it really was one of my favorites of the series. Really interesting to see the Commanders of the grounders have the AI chip in them, and they descend from the woman who destroyed the world. Excellent episode!
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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:15 pm

Ez wrote:
As sad as this episode was, it really was one of my favorites of the series. Really interesting to see the Commanders of the grounders have the AI chip in them, and they descend from the woman who destroyed the world. Excellent episode!

yeah that was all good, I need to watch it again.
I was bummed they killed off lexa, but with her being iN FTWD she may not want to do this show, or
there was a conflict.
Sad also that in her last time on the show she had that stupid thing between her eyes!!!!!!! that bothered me
so distracting.
And they had to lesbianize her again!

So Clarke she likes these women, so what was the deal with finn ???????????????


But the backstory was good , the 01 AI started the War, but she built a 2nd one
which is the woman jaja sees.

But then again maybe not as that one is looking for the one that was on polaris,
So yeah she may be the bad one.

So red dress woman is bad
AI 02 is good but hidden somewhere.
Or 02 could be that thing they pulled out of lexa.
I thought it was just the essence of the woman who made them, but maybe that is the AI
and it too is a lesbian !!!!!!!! Basketball

Good news for clark!!!!!!! if the new commander is a woman it will be like lexa in a new body lol
so she can get some more of the girl lovin.
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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:51 pm

I read an interview with the creator and he said they only had her for 7 eps this season because of her other commitments, so they decided for the story to kill her off.
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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:05 pm

IGN: So let’s get to it. Why Jason, why? Why did you do it?

Rothenberg: Why did I do what, Eric? If you’re referring to the very, very tragic death of the beloved Commander then I would say that a lot of factors come into play when you’re breaking a season and it would be a lie to say that the fact that Alycia had another show that she was a series regular on and that I only had the use of her as an actor for seven episodes, six really… There was a date for certain at which we were going to lose her and after that it would be very difficult to arrange to see her again and that definitely played a big role in my decision to have the story go in that direction.

That said, I also, around the same time that I discovered that, that she was a series regular in another show, I was fishing… It was between seasons. I had these two great stories. I had the AI story on the one hand this continuing Grounder conflict between the twelve clans and what I knew would be a difficult 13th clan relationship. And there was no point at which the stories merged. I was searching around for what I was jokingly calling “the theory of everything" - what was the grand, unifying theory of the season? Then I remembered we discussed this notion of reincarnation in episode ten of Season 2 and the idea that Grounder commanders were selected via reincarnation. I didn’t want to say that that was nonsense and I didn’t want to say that it was actual, sort of spiritual, mystical reincarnation and then I struck on this notion of technological reincarnation. I was reading Ray Kurzweil’s book The Singularity is Near. He believes that we’ll be able to upload our consciousness in the near future. What if in some way this was possible? What if we could technologically reincarnate and the spirit could in fact live on inside of this piece of tech? That’s sort of where the story was born. Once I struck on that notion, I was like, “Oh my god, it’s really sad that we have to do this, “ but ultimately it seemed like the best story, especially considering the actor was no longer going to be in the show.

IGN: Suffice to say that if Fear the Walking Dead wasn’t a factor, things might have played out differently?

Rothenberg: Yeah, again it’s hard to say could have, should have, would have, but the truth is I love her and I would have made her a series regular in a second. I tired but it was too late and that’s just what it was. As I was breaking the story between seasons, knowing we were coming back, I was thinking about it long and hard before the [writers] room even started, so it all factored into my thinking. It’s hard to say for sure… Were she not on another show, would I have not had this story play out? It’s hard for me to say yes or no. I can say that I adore her, I think she’s amazing. I miss her more than anybody else does, I guarantee it, and yet I still feel like the story was compelling and emotional and the kind of story we tell. This is a world where, we’ve done it before, no one is safe. The son of the Chancellor got killed in episode there. There are no happy endings in the sense of easy way outs. Episode five, as you well know, we killed 300 people… needlessly. They didn’t have to be killed. Then Finn got killed by Clarke in episode eight of last season. It’s just a world where bad things happen.
IGN: This is character that means a lot to people. There are going to be some fans that are very sad and some fans that are going to be very angry. They’re going to have an emotional reaction. They’re tied into your show and she's an important character for some as strong LGBT representation and she’s simply a beloved character by many. What would you say to the fans who are going to have a visceral reaction because they love this character so much?

Rothenberg: What would I say to them? Well first of all, I totally relate. I hate the idea that anybody would be devastated to the point of not wanting to watch where the story went going forward, not only for my own ratings, but for the fact that I feel like the story, going forward doesn’t forget her and she doesn't go away as a character, necessarily, in terms of… I’m not saying whether we’re seeing her again but she lives on inside the flame and she lives on in Clarke’s heart. Clarke is going to be in mourning for Lexa, really, for the foreseeable future. This is not a show that forgets about people’s injuries, both emotional and physical. Part of the story is Clarke needing now to figure out a way, the way we all do... People in this show, we’re not killing people for the sake of killing people. We’re killing people because sometimes that’s what happens in our lives. People are taken tragically and suddenly and you still have to go on with your life and pick up the pieces and in Clarke’s case, be a leader and figure out how to save her people and yet compartmentalize this tragic loss. Can she now go forward and fulfill the sort of non-violent agenda of Lexa? Can she somehow influence the selection of the next Commander so that Lexa’s legacy lives on? These are all stories that we will see going forward and that I think are importantly activated by this very tragic loss and this episode.

IGN: How much debate did you have about the circumstances of her death? Obviously that is a whole question itself. Once you decide she’s going to die, there are many different ways she could die.

Rothenberg: There was a lot of discussion of how, of course. I did love the idea… Well “love” is a strange word for it, but I thought it was compelling, dramatically, if it happened at the hand of Titus, who genuinely loves her. He’s there in that moment, trying to kill Clarke because of whatever political and emotional difficulties he’s having with the direction her influence has taken Lexa in. And then the drama, the Greek tragedy of being responsible for the death of this special human being who, it’s not a stretch to say, feels like a father figure for her. That was something I found to be compelling and dramatic and something we wanted to explore for sure. We finally get to a point where just as they found this moment of happiness, it’s taken away. But I didn’t want that moment of happiness to not exist.
IGN: Did you consider having them be more of a true couple for a while longer beforehand? There was the scene at the end of an episode a few weeks back where it looked like something was going to happen but it didn’t. Did you consider that or did you always like the idea of there not being a true love scene between them until right before she dies?

Rothenberg: I hear your question, but I feel like it would have been too soon before that. I feel like definitely there were versions where that scene ended in a love scene and I felt like it was too soon. She’d literally just come around and just begun to forgive her for what happened. I didn’t want it to happen too quickly because then it would have been over and that wouldn’t have been right either. Taking out for a second, if it's possible, the idea that she’s about to die -- because of course, they don’t know that -- they’re about to leave each other’s worlds for god knows how long. Everybody has to retreat behind the wall because of the blockade. It could be years until they see each other again. Who knows? Obviously, in this show, that’s probably not going to be the case. [Laughs] But they don't know that. It’s like with your high school girlfriend where you’re going to college and she’s going to another college and it’s the last night you’re ever going to be together. I wanted to get the feeling of that goodbye moment and then, unfortunately, it takes a tragic turn. That was sort of the thinking in terms of why they would both be consummating their relationship in this episode, sexually speaking, of course, and leaving each other in this episode.

[Editor’s Note: This next/final question and answer delves into a topic that could be considered more potentially spoilery than the others…]

IGN: I have to ask… You did tweet a photo that Alycia was in, having dinner with you and the cast, while you were filming the season finale. Anything we should perhaps presume from that?

Rothenberg: Well, like I said, the spirit of the Commanders are in the flame. Whether or not that’s means that’s how we see her again or if we see her again… I have to sometimes step back and realize that Twitter is really a small slice of the audience. We all are on Twitter obsessively and I love Twitter and I love the social interaction that that allows for fans to have access to the creators and the actors and us to them but if I were to spoil something like that because people on Twitter have seen a picture… There were fans around while we were shooting scenes in Vancouver too. So few people are so that into the show that they know that something like that could come about. But I’m also not going to say that that’s not going to happen because it is out there.
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PostSubject: s   Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:15 pm

Ez wrote:
I read an interview with the creator and he said they only had her for 7 eps this season because of her other commitments, so they decided for the story to kill her off.
Actually I should think that this ep was one of the masterpieces of The 100, with the revelations of the past and Lexa's tragic death. It really was an epiosde, which kept me on the edge of my seat for every second ... and watching Lexa die was pretty tough ...
BUT, I can't help, I'm pretty pissed right now. Not because "Clexa" now won't happen anymore, no, I couldn't stand that anyways, all that crazy shipping by a faction, who thinks everything about the show is to give the Lesbian community some kind of desperately needed representation. What a crap ... I read some comments about that today and I really can't believe, what some try to read out of it or just put up out of wishful thinking ... Jeez!!!
No, I'm pissed because Lexa was a very interesting character on one of the most compelling shows currently on air.
AND THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF, BECAUSE SHE'S PART OF THAT CRAP SHOW "FEAR OF THE WALKING DEAD"????
What a shame ... and very frustrating ... but yeah, I know, with FOTWD she probably will make significantly more money and definitely will have a far bigger number of viewers ... so who cares about quality ... Mad

However, can't wait for more about Alie's story and about the A.I. device they pulled out of Lexa ...
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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:39 pm

Well I am not a big fan of killing off characters, and with lexa, she could have
disappeared in other ways, without being killed off.
that way she could have a guest role in future if possible.

The other thing is what if she now gets killed off in S-3 of FWD ??
They do kill people off on WD and she could get killed off, as she isnt really
much of a character on that show as of now.

Then she could have come back to 100, but since they killed her off,
hard to have her come back.
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PostSubject: Re: The 100 Episode 3x07 "Thirteen" March 03, 2016   Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:41 pm

I read something interesting on imdb boards,
the 100 logo when it crashes, does it make the infinity sign ??

also lexa supposedly is in the finale, in the City of light, which sort means clarke
eats the chip and then sees her there.
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